Absolutely BRILLIANT Alison. 👏👏 - here they all are supporting Hamas a documented terrorist organisation and they can’t even have a respectful conversation. The reason being, almost ALL of them would be completely devoid of facts about Israel and GAZA and that’s why you just get the normal rhetoric such as Zionist pig etc. Observations from your video: the reason for the watermelon?🤷🏼😵💫- 30,000 dead 🤷🏼🤦♂️- Palestinian shawl and a mask (immuno compromised OR face cover to hide their shame) 🤔
yes there was violence on both sides prior to the UN vote in 1947. Britain couldn't wait to get out of there as administrators. The Arabs were attacking the Jews and the Jews were fighting the Arabs.
So what?
the UN proposed 2 states, both groups had a right to a state there. It was only the Arab Muslims who rejected it and immediately declared war so that the Jews couldn't have a state.
They did this for religious reasons that are all spelt out in the Hamas charter. Not me saying it, they themselves say it. They think it's the rightful place of the Muslims to rule over the Jews. They also think the end times won't come about until they kill all the Jews. They say it clearly in their charter. It's a religious imperative, it's not about land, it's about religion.
So IMHO they lost their right to any consideration for a state when they declared war and lost - and this situation would not be a problem now had those original 700k refugees been immediately resettled in the belligerent Arab Muslim states who started that war.
Also, there would arguably have been no problem had Britain not meddled in Arabia in WWI, with their lawrence of arabia arrogance, using their divide and conquer strategy in the Muslim world pitting Arabs against Ottomans.
it could not because the Ottoman Empire was not an empire as we call it but a Sultanate, ruled by Muslims, who believe, religiously, that Muslims must rule over the dhimmi. The dhimmi are inferior to Muslims they believe and must not rule over Muslims, because they believe Islam is supreme as a belief system.
I am deleting the anti-semitic craziness from the comments. No, not all wars are bankers wars, that's just a trite saying. I could just as easily say all wars are religious wars and that's probably a bit more true to say.
yes and also a reworking of the ancient egyptian belief of the god torn apart then born again.... it's everywhere this motif. Might have more to do with human death-panic. Same as the recurring virgin birth motif has more to do with male succession-panic pre-dna testing (is that really my child...?)
Trans "medicine" is chemical and surgical mutilation that should not be supported by any thinking, caring person.
Sky News Australia: "‘Extinguish the whole thing’: Douglas Murray calls for Israel to ‘destroy’ Hamas"
That should be a clear reason for the Palestinians to protest - strange they couldn't tell you. It says the protest is the Green/Red Left Conglomerate.
yes, the Arab Muslims wooed the left from the very start. In the old newspapers you can read where the Arab Muslims threatened the US that if they backed Israel (Britain backed the Arab Muslim attack on Israel, paying Jordan money and sending 27 officers to help) that they would side with the USSR against them. And they did. That's where it started. Hamas is officially a division of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is backed by Qatar and al-Jazeera, and active around the world.
Of course it's only instrumental as they want completely different things. The only thing they have in common is the wish to destroy western civilisation in order to replace it with their own utopias. If they ever succeeded, the Islamists would put the commies against the wall first (just like they did in Iran)
That said, trans medicine probably does have a place, but for a tiny small minority of people who have a real medical condition. Not the way it's being pushed now, which is extreme and also dangerous for young teenagers confused about their sexuality and motivated by the narcissistic pressure of social media. When they're rewarded with massive peer attention for being so 'brave' it's an intoxicating and powerful incentive for a young mind.
All humans have racist tendencies built into them because we are tribal primates. The trick is to minimise it. Right now there is a bolus dose of anti-white racism being injected into Western societies by corporate elites who benefit from the depressed wages and housing construction boom that mass migration brings. Got nothing to do Judaism so you should stop obsessing over them, Constance.
Thank you for going along and writing about your experience. I'm sure if you google Douglas Murray a lot of accusations do come up, but I'd also be confident that most are baseless. I think it is disappointing that most activism these days is underpinned by hatred and intolerance. It didn't used to be this way.
yes, he hates ignorant bigotry and stupidity like judging people for their skin colour. He doesn't like racism. I know this is true as I've liked him very much as an author for a long time. He's well-researched.
That is true. And even for periods of history when it tolerates other religions (eg: Ottoman sultanate) it isn't a happy welcoming inclusive society. The non-Muslims are second class citizens and are made to feel it with additional taxes and inferior treatment.
It would be nice if the activists were doing things that genuinely helped remote, impoverished, indigenous Aussies, but they aren't. That "always was always will be" is bad in 2 ways. (1) it isn't true. If you own torrens title property it's yours. It's not aboriginal land, it belongs to you, and you have a fence and a gate and a front door with a lock. So it's insincere rhetoric and false. (2) it's about undermining Australian sovereignty. It's about getting you used to the idea that you don't actually own the land (even though under law, now you do). Because there are agencies that want to take private home ownership away from us. But they won't be giving it to Aboriginal people you can be sure of that. These same agencies would like to destroy the "nation" in favour of a globalist utopia, where you own nothing and they don't care if you're happy or not.
It would be nice indeed.... Most activists are activists for activists sake which is why we see the same people popping up to protest different seemingly unrelated causes. The same people will be seen rallying against climate change, racism, aboriginal rights, palestine, LGBTQIA+++, et merda.
in this instance, I think it's not just the professional protester syndrome at work. Islam is actively targeting Aboriginal Australia and trying to convert indigenous people and take over their protest movement. They are doing this for a few reasons: (1) legal exceptionalism for tribal law (they want sharia therefore support multi-legalism), (2) supremacism (Islam wants to be top dog and sees indigenous people getting special treatment and wants that for themselves), and (3) moral authority: indigenous people were here first and thus have some moral authority as first Australians. Islam wants to claim the country for itself and thus wants to be accorded status as first. As ridiculous as that is, given indigenous people were here more than 30,000 years before Islam was invented (around 600AD)
The only reference to a watermelon that I am aware of, is the "green outside, red inside" analogy. (Like the perjorative use of the term "coconut" or "lamington" (the Aussie version) to describe a black person who is white at heart.)
But - appropriate as it is - I don't know why a Hamas supporter would take that as a badge of pride!
yes, also i thought initially of that watermelon analogy - but in this instance the green is Islam, which also has a green flag at times, eg Saudi Arabia - being nothing to do with the environment.
Hahahaha that’s me that called you a Zionist pig. And your writing skills are pretty shit for a “journalist”. And you still are a Zionist pig. Also can you send me my video? I need to make it go viral. Clearly your shitty writing column isn’t getting much traction.
Thank you for finding my story and commenting, it reveals so much about you. I genuinely wanted to know the answer to two questions:
(1) Why do you not ask Hamas to surrender - thus immediately ending the war - if you care about civilian lives?
It looks to me, an outside observer, that you don't care about the civilian lives or dead kids or bombed hospitals as you claim to, since you don't ask for this. I could be wrong though, so I'd like to hear your reasoning.
(2) What do you think the watermelon stands for? I no longer need the answer to this question as I found out already. However on the day, I did not yet know what this meant and genuinely wanted to know.
And in answer to your insult of "zionist", as far as I can see that word just means someone who thinks Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state. I have no problem with that. They do have that right, as voted for them by the United Nations.
The reason the Arab Muslims of Gaza and West Bank don't have their own state is that they rejected that original two-state solution and declared war along with the surrounding Arab Muslim nations. They lost that war and have rejected a two-state solution ever since.
What is intolerable to them is that Jews should have any part of that land at all for their own state. They want it all. So I haven't got any sympathy for their stateless predicament, they should be resettled in the Arab Muslim nations that were the losing belligerents in that war especially Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and Iraq. Resettle them among their brothers and sisters so they can get on with their lives and build a future for themselves.
Absolutely BRILLIANT Alison. 👏👏 - here they all are supporting Hamas a documented terrorist organisation and they can’t even have a respectful conversation. The reason being, almost ALL of them would be completely devoid of facts about Israel and GAZA and that’s why you just get the normal rhetoric such as Zionist pig etc. Observations from your video: the reason for the watermelon?🤷🏼😵💫- 30,000 dead 🤷🏼🤦♂️- Palestinian shawl and a mask (immuno compromised OR face cover to hide their shame) 🤔
Keep up your good work 👍🏻👏
internet says the watermelon is the colours of the Arab Muslim flag
No good only knowing half of the history. Here’s a bit you didn’t link to either because you didn’t know or it didn’t support your supposition 🤷🏼
https://open.substack.com/pub/melaniephillips/p/why-israel-is-entitled-in-law-to?r=8t22c&utm_medium=ios&utm_campaign=post
i like melanie phillips - she is a good journo
yes there was violence on both sides prior to the UN vote in 1947. Britain couldn't wait to get out of there as administrators. The Arabs were attacking the Jews and the Jews were fighting the Arabs.
So what?
the UN proposed 2 states, both groups had a right to a state there. It was only the Arab Muslims who rejected it and immediately declared war so that the Jews couldn't have a state.
They did this for religious reasons that are all spelt out in the Hamas charter. Not me saying it, they themselves say it. They think it's the rightful place of the Muslims to rule over the Jews. They also think the end times won't come about until they kill all the Jews. They say it clearly in their charter. It's a religious imperative, it's not about land, it's about religion.
So IMHO they lost their right to any consideration for a state when they declared war and lost - and this situation would not be a problem now had those original 700k refugees been immediately resettled in the belligerent Arab Muslim states who started that war.
Also, there would arguably have been no problem had Britain not meddled in Arabia in WWI, with their lawrence of arabia arrogance, using their divide and conquer strategy in the Muslim world pitting Arabs against Ottomans.
Would modern Israel exist if the Ottoman Empire was still around?
it could not because the Ottoman Empire was not an empire as we call it but a Sultanate, ruled by Muslims, who believe, religiously, that Muslims must rule over the dhimmi. The dhimmi are inferior to Muslims they believe and must not rule over Muslims, because they believe Islam is supreme as a belief system.
I am deleting the anti-semitic craziness from the comments. No, not all wars are bankers wars, that's just a trite saying. I could just as easily say all wars are religious wars and that's probably a bit more true to say.
Oh, and I’m assuming you KNOW that Jesus was a Jew 🤔 or maybe not. 😵💫😳
A reworking of Apollo in my view. So Anatolian.
yes and also a reworking of the ancient egyptian belief of the god torn apart then born again.... it's everywhere this motif. Might have more to do with human death-panic. Same as the recurring virgin birth motif has more to do with male succession-panic pre-dna testing (is that really my child...?)
i don't much like any of the abrahamic insanities
Can you be more specific as you have an obvious bias towards your beloved J$ws? Yet you say they're insane?
So what's your religion, Alison?
I am an atheist.
Trans "medicine" is chemical and surgical mutilation that should not be supported by any thinking, caring person.
Sky News Australia: "‘Extinguish the whole thing’: Douglas Murray calls for Israel to ‘destroy’ Hamas"
That should be a clear reason for the Palestinians to protest - strange they couldn't tell you. It says the protest is the Green/Red Left Conglomerate.
yes, the Arab Muslims wooed the left from the very start. In the old newspapers you can read where the Arab Muslims threatened the US that if they backed Israel (Britain backed the Arab Muslim attack on Israel, paying Jordan money and sending 27 officers to help) that they would side with the USSR against them. And they did. That's where it started. Hamas is officially a division of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is backed by Qatar and al-Jazeera, and active around the world.
Of course it's only instrumental as they want completely different things. The only thing they have in common is the wish to destroy western civilisation in order to replace it with their own utopias. If they ever succeeded, the Islamists would put the commies against the wall first (just like they did in Iran)
That said, trans medicine probably does have a place, but for a tiny small minority of people who have a real medical condition. Not the way it's being pushed now, which is extreme and also dangerous for young teenagers confused about their sexuality and motivated by the narcissistic pressure of social media. When they're rewarded with massive peer attention for being so 'brave' it's an intoxicating and powerful incentive for a young mind.
All humans have racist tendencies built into them because we are tribal primates. The trick is to minimise it. Right now there is a bolus dose of anti-white racism being injected into Western societies by corporate elites who benefit from the depressed wages and housing construction boom that mass migration brings. Got nothing to do Judaism so you should stop obsessing over them, Constance.
Thank you for going along and writing about your experience. I'm sure if you google Douglas Murray a lot of accusations do come up, but I'd also be confident that most are baseless. I think it is disappointing that most activism these days is underpinned by hatred and intolerance. It didn't used to be this way.
yes, he hates ignorant bigotry and stupidity like judging people for their skin colour. He doesn't like racism. I know this is true as I've liked him very much as an author for a long time. He's well-researched.
So it appears that the "protesters" outside the Murray event confirmed everything that Murray has been saying about Palestinians and Islam. Own goal ?
it does appear that way
Normally watermelons in a political context - green on the outside, red on the inside.
Islam coexists with no one.
That is true. And even for periods of history when it tolerates other religions (eg: Ottoman sultanate) it isn't a happy welcoming inclusive society. The non-Muslims are second class citizens and are made to feel it with additional taxes and inferior treatment.
Notice the "Always was always will be" jumper... seems like these people are professional activists
It would be nice if the activists were doing things that genuinely helped remote, impoverished, indigenous Aussies, but they aren't. That "always was always will be" is bad in 2 ways. (1) it isn't true. If you own torrens title property it's yours. It's not aboriginal land, it belongs to you, and you have a fence and a gate and a front door with a lock. So it's insincere rhetoric and false. (2) it's about undermining Australian sovereignty. It's about getting you used to the idea that you don't actually own the land (even though under law, now you do). Because there are agencies that want to take private home ownership away from us. But they won't be giving it to Aboriginal people you can be sure of that. These same agencies would like to destroy the "nation" in favour of a globalist utopia, where you own nothing and they don't care if you're happy or not.
It would be nice indeed.... Most activists are activists for activists sake which is why we see the same people popping up to protest different seemingly unrelated causes. The same people will be seen rallying against climate change, racism, aboriginal rights, palestine, LGBTQIA+++, et merda.
in this instance, I think it's not just the professional protester syndrome at work. Islam is actively targeting Aboriginal Australia and trying to convert indigenous people and take over their protest movement. They are doing this for a few reasons: (1) legal exceptionalism for tribal law (they want sharia therefore support multi-legalism), (2) supremacism (Islam wants to be top dog and sees indigenous people getting special treatment and wants that for themselves), and (3) moral authority: indigenous people were here first and thus have some moral authority as first Australians. Islam wants to claim the country for itself and thus wants to be accorded status as first. As ridiculous as that is, given indigenous people were here more than 30,000 years before Islam was invented (around 600AD)
The only reference to a watermelon that I am aware of, is the "green outside, red inside" analogy. (Like the perjorative use of the term "coconut" or "lamington" (the Aussie version) to describe a black person who is white at heart.)
But - appropriate as it is - I don't know why a Hamas supporter would take that as a badge of pride!
yes, also i thought initially of that watermelon analogy - but in this instance the green is Islam, which also has a green flag at times, eg Saudi Arabia - being nothing to do with the environment.
Hahahaha that’s me that called you a Zionist pig. And your writing skills are pretty shit for a “journalist”. And you still are a Zionist pig. Also can you send me my video? I need to make it go viral. Clearly your shitty writing column isn’t getting much traction.
Thank you for finding my story and commenting, it reveals so much about you. I genuinely wanted to know the answer to two questions:
(1) Why do you not ask Hamas to surrender - thus immediately ending the war - if you care about civilian lives?
It looks to me, an outside observer, that you don't care about the civilian lives or dead kids or bombed hospitals as you claim to, since you don't ask for this. I could be wrong though, so I'd like to hear your reasoning.
(2) What do you think the watermelon stands for? I no longer need the answer to this question as I found out already. However on the day, I did not yet know what this meant and genuinely wanted to know.
And in answer to your insult of "zionist", as far as I can see that word just means someone who thinks Israel has the right to exist as a Jewish state. I have no problem with that. They do have that right, as voted for them by the United Nations.
The reason the Arab Muslims of Gaza and West Bank don't have their own state is that they rejected that original two-state solution and declared war along with the surrounding Arab Muslim nations. They lost that war and have rejected a two-state solution ever since.
What is intolerable to them is that Jews should have any part of that land at all for their own state. They want it all. So I haven't got any sympathy for their stateless predicament, they should be resettled in the Arab Muslim nations that were the losing belligerents in that war especially Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt and Iraq. Resettle them among their brothers and sisters so they can get on with their lives and build a future for themselves.