Israel-hatred at leftist rallies supported by The Greens spilled over into attacks on Jews in Sydney's east. In-depth exploration of how the left laundered the blame
I have seen the video of the beheaded and dismembered children, of the sniper wounds on children, and children burnt to death.
Independent Jewish American ladies who wanted to see for themselves, reported the genocide and the war crimes being committed by the Israelis.
It is not a lie that children are being targeted, or prisoners raped.
The soldiers themselves admit this, and proudly proclaim that "Today's child is tomorrow's terrorist: why wait?".
It is the stated policy to eradicate the Palestinians from Palestine, and even Trump is openly stating that the USA will turn Palestine into the "New Riviera".
Ethnic cleansing was once considered a crime, but is now seen as a brilliant business opportunity.
If this were being done by anyone other than the Israelis, it would be condemned, and we all would be sending money and weapons to the Palestinians to resist this tyranny, as we are for Ukraine.
Maybe if the Palestinians just identified as Ukrainian, this would all be resolved in the Palestinians' favour?
But Israel does behead children. International doctors have stated that most of the bodies they see are children and often they are headless. Israel knows nearly half of those in the Gaza concentration camp are children and it drops four or eight 20,000 pound bombs onto plastic tent camps often in areas it has told Palestinians are safe. That does not just behead children it evaporates them.
And international doctors have clearly stated that Israeli snipers are shooting children in the head and heart, even toddlers. Dr Mark Perlmutter, an American Jew and doctor who helped in Gaza, brought out Xrays showing kids shot in the head and heart. They are he said, perfect shots and no child gets shot twice by mistake with perfect shots to the head and heart.
As with all wars, the truth is bombed away first. I am in no position to argue about these atrocities undoubtedly on both sides, but I am moved to add my tuppence worth that no government which is prepared to proudly use its own citizens as guinea pigs for transfection injections is ever to be trusted again about anything. https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/
Agree 100%! The Israeli government is responsible for atrocities and so is Hamas. Whipping up hate in our own society is also irresponsible but is what we have come to expect from the Greens who betrayed us so soundly in 2020 and ongoing.
'There is no evidence that Israel beheads children or uses snipers to shoot children or deliberately bombs children. Israel says it tries to minimise civilian casualties, a difficult task when Hamas fighters hide among the civilian population."
I dunno about that, Alison. Seems to me that the Israelis wage war in a far more Torahnnical way than that:
(Joshua 6:21 - "And they shall utterly destroy all that is in the city, both man and woman, both young and old, and ox and donkey, with the edge of the sword.")
As other commenters have noted, they're damn proud of it too...
6) Murray is a populist cretin, because it is NOT A WAR. Under international laws Israel ILLEGALLY occupies Gaza and The West Bank, and is an Occupying Power, and it has OBLIGATIONS for the safeguard of those it OCCUPIES. The OCCUPIED PEOPLE ( The Palestinains) have every RIGHT TO RESIST under the law, and cannot be collectively punished for doing so.
You're willfully ignorant of basic facts that can be easily searched and verified because you're a genocide apologist, and you don't want to know the truth because you have either religious or racist motivations. Which is it? 🤔
This article is a full of untruths as are the Greens with their Globalist Warming Bullshit; true Jews have lived in peace in the middle east for centuries, and still do even in Iran. The rabid Khazarian false Jews are Satanic and through other Satanic/Luciferian supremacist groups such as Freemasons and Jesuits, have corrupted Christianity and Judaism with sacrificial child abuse as a foundational link to the psychopathic mind, in essence to turn off the God gene that is present and active in all true human beings.
There is a fairly plausible argument the Islam was specifically created to supply a third party to create the fear and hatred of conflict that overrides the influence of the god gene, with early the early childhood mutilation of circumcision being a major factor.
Seems to me ATM, this article fails to provide much evidence or specifics of "attacks on innocent Jews" it refers to? ..any video or charges laid?...also, fails to put Oct 3rd into the context of near 80yrs of "murder, theft & deception" coming from the global Israel "machine" which has been instrumental in stealing the Palestinians land, inch by inch, from under their feet for near 80yrs. Look at the territory over time maps. The "Empire MIC", which is global, is brilliant as framing "Israel" as "the victims"... when clearly it is almost always been the aggressor & expanding its territory, & attacking often completely defenceless"neighbours". The seemingly irrefutable genocide currently happening now as "a response" to Oct 3d (NB- ICJ & ICC judgements) (where incidentaly, reportedly Palestinians were previously visibly practising Hang Glider the operations" to (possibly) attack is media framed as a response.. ...however, a "response" in self defence must be "proportional" & clearly Israel's arial bombardment & murdering now, & starvation is nothing of the sort. Lastly, the Oct 3rd "stories" we are told about some experts are saying were a "let it happen on purpose" event to justify yet another massive expansion into "Palestine territory". Many good experts to listen to, Vanessa Beeley (whose father was UK Ambassador to the Arab Regions) is on Sub-Stack also, many great Israeli reporters too. I could be wrong but "context" is the issue here or please advise.
The "Palestinians" never started a war on October 7 but they have been the victims of a genocide by the IDF with American support. The persecution of the Palestinian people has been brutal and barbaric but as for the journalism around the real story ....it's as pathetic and blind to the truth as it has always been....wake up people ...you are being lied to once again ....🙏
Your bias has this arse-about backwards. Innocent until proven guilty is how our courts are run, and that principle has worked very well for a long, long time.
You make the claim, you provide the proof, otherwise it is nothing more than an unsubstantiated opinion which I can get from any street corner. Pretty worthless, except for what it says of the speaker's bias.
I’ll give Israel max 10 years before its welcome collapse & removal from the map of the ME. The record for states that commit genocide is pretty clear - they don’t survive long. Here are just a few: Ottoman Turkey, Nazi Germany, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Rwanda, Yugoslavia. As an aside - I don’t know why this genocide supporting author found her way into my Substack feed, but based on this article, if she had a shred of decency, she would die of shame.
Bravo! The rational way for society to deal with 'hate' is:
(1) find out what the fear is that spawned it
(2) take effective actions to convincingly eliminate those fear perceptions
(3) Eliminate the Fear and you'll eliminate the Hate.
If you are Jewish, feeling 'Jew hatred', find out what the Haters fear about Jews & then try to eliminate those fears by behaving in ways that will reassure them that they have nothing to fear from you. There's no need to 'hate back' or prepare for combat with those who hate you. Just find out what they are afraid of & then use your brain to find ways to assuage their fears.
Incidentally, from 1958 to 1964, Israel committed 17,000 acts of aggression across borders with Arab countries, when neither Hamas, Hizbullah nor the PLO existed.
We should also remember Tacitus's famous summary, “The Jews are unique among the peoples of the world in their intense hatred & contempt for peoples but their own.” Anti-Jewish stereotypes in the 15th century:
This IS a bit 'Rich'. Whilst other patrons on Social Media, are 'Kicked off' their platforms for Apparently 'Violation of Platform 'Conditions'', especially under CONVID 'something', IDF 'ACTIVE' Members, Post their Einsatzgruppen style 'Deeds & Antics' on 'X' - WITHOUT any 'Issues', for ALL the world to observe.
Next; HAMAS, IS a MOSSAD/Israeli 'Asset'!
Next; THE IDF, IS a 'Citizen Army'. = Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Uncles, Aunts,Nephews & Nieces ALL serve - ALL 'Know' what they do!
Isreali's@Large SHOULD know, What their COMIC DO & CAN DO - to them! THE 7th/Oct /2024, IS just another 'False Flagging' Event ('Shifted' to THAT Location - ON Purpose a couple of days previous to the 'Event'! MOST of the 'Jewish' Civilian Casualties of the 'Event', WERE BY IDF & Israeli Special Forces, under ISRAEL'S 'Hannibal Protocol' - I think you'll find that Hamas DOESN'T OWN, Helicopter Gunships with Night Vision 'Enhancements'! (And the Droning of 'Hamas' Hang-gliders across one of the Planet's MOST Electronic Surveilled Frontiers, IS 'Pathetic'!
WE have (Check Social Media) Israeli Pop & Rock bands, 'Celebrating' the Demise of ANY & ALL Palestinians, with large projected Images of Desolation Central (Most of the once thriving Palestinian Cities and Towns), and Victims of Indiscriminant Israeli Bombing & Shelling, whilst the Popular Jewish 'Mob' Shout & Celebrate! IDF Commanders 'Allow', Sniping of ANY AND ALL Palestinian Citizens - Especially if they are 'Bored'. Palestinian citizens (Any age or sex) ARE Brutalised & Violated regularly, under IDF 'Custody', against International convention - Documented after/When, IF 'Released'! THE Dismembered remains of Children (whether from Ordinance deployment or 'other' - is not Clear), are placed in trees for All to see = WHO does that as a 'Civilised' member of ANY Society?
Zionism; THE Balfour Agreement (1917). WW 1- USE UP the Local Arab support in Palestine & Locally, to 'Neutrilise' Turkey, out of the War- Promising Everything, Including Arab Homelands - THEN Reneg on the Deal once operations are Completed! (That's the British S.O.P. - And, 'Concentration Camps' = British idea.).
Next > The Early 1930's; THIS IS the Crew, that had a Pact with the Nazi 3rd Reich 1933/34 Complex, to 'FORCIBLY persuade/Leverage' ALL Euro Jews to move to Palestine (As the NEO Jewish Central Homeland) By ANY & ALL 'Means Necessary' (Brutalisations, Commerce closures, Ghetto-isations, Concentrations). The 'Head of Operations' in this ZION/NAZI Pact 'Transition office' was Senior officer Adolph Eichmann. (Why do folks think that Zionists & MOSSAD, wanted this Officer 'Eradicated'? = 'Loose ends'- Along with records & other Personnel; Thanks - I.B.M).
Last; Apart from the Extended Ancient Persian Empire encompassing 'Occupied' Palestine, where else do we see such Massive Trauma, especially 'Targeted' against Infants, kids, women & Menfolk (Indescriminantly or PURPOSEFUL, STRATEGIC State Policy) WITHOUT International or Adjacent
Member States, ACTUALLY Stepping up to the Civilised Plate, And ENFORCING The 'STOP THIS
CRAP' -PROCESS?? WHAT'S THAT? = _______________Crickets! Even the Commies & Fascist operations of NotMyGov.con.aEwe, Are 'Quiet for their Masters.'
'Stirring the Pot'; This is an OLD Process. U.S troops were shown Photos of Nazi concentration camps (Known for Years - & No matter the reasoning of events)prior to D-Day landings. U.S Troops were shown Photos of Chemical victims - Predominantly Kids (No matter the Authentic 'Source') Prior to Desert Storm Ops. (Ironic in todays Palestinian Liquidations By IDF Policy). THE U.N has casualty figures & Palestinian Demographics of Population = This would be an Indictment against ANY Nation, in this case - ISRAEL! 'Kicked out of 105 + Countries, over 1,000 'Incidents' = Common Denominator??
As for the 'Greens' - Perhaps they could visit, the Planet 'Earth', Maybe even Australia - for
Grounding!
After all of that - Wellness & Unity - John D. 4th Gen Citizen
Hamas is most certainly a Mossad asset, which in turn is an asset of the Central Banking/Robber Baron crime families that will get their soulless puppets to do absolutely anything to keep humanity off balance and out of our Right Minds, while they milk us of everything that is good and decent
That'd be part of THE, & Amongst other SWISS 'Above Sovereign State & International Law' Crew = THE B.I.S. = Bank of International Settlements. - 'Nice' of them to give themselves tis EXCLUSIVE Status! LOL!
Here are a few pieces of content (with the events in chronological order) that may give people a fresh perspective on what the State of Israel REALLY is and what it is REALLY capable of...towards its own Jewish citizens:
I am not saying that Hamas are even remotely the good guys in this story...but neither is the Zionist entity.
Also, calling the State of Israel the "Jewish homeland" is only appropriate for people who wish ALL Jews to be DEAD!
Judaism (whether the 'ethnicity' or the actual religious doctrine) and Zionism are in direct opposition to each other which make sense given the origins of Zionism:
"The heart of Zionism is British geopolitics set up by Lord Palmerston, Queen Victoria and the United Grand Lodge of Masons. Zionism is not Judaism. Christian Zionism is not Christianity. Zionism is British Freemasonry."
If Hamas are not the good guys, along with the dozen other factions in the Palestinian Resistance then you are saying the French and Polish Resistance and the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, in the same situation, taking up arms against their bestial occupier, were not good guys either. That is ridiculous.
Under international law Hamas and the Palestinian Resistance are clearly the good guys because they have the right to fight for justice and freedom in their homeland.
The weird thing is how many Jews allow Israel to claim it represents them.
If we apply logic then when Israel says it is the Jewish state, it is saying it represents Judaism and Jews.
Which means that whatever Israel is or does is representative of Judaic and Jewish beliefs, values and practices.
Which says, that 76 years of well documented actions and policy by Israel - invasion, occupation, genocide, ethnic cleansing, colonisation,
rape - including of children,
torture - including of children,
murder - particularly and intentionally of children,
theft, destruction, sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery are policies and practices of Judaism and Jews.
Why would any sane Jew ever allow the State of Israel to get away with claiming it represents them and their religion?
"Under international law Hamas and the Palestinian Resistance are clearly the good guys because they have the right to fight for justice and freedom in their homeland."
With the greatest respect, you don't have the full picture either.
Hamas are definitely NOT the good guys and that's the opinion of many (if not most) of the Palestinians in Gaza themselves:
What is shown in these clips are NOT the actions of a legitimate fighting force/resistance and therefore should not be treated as such....but that doesn't even remotely mean that I justify the Gaza genocide:
Re: your clips. I looked at some but unfortunately most if not all of them have come from the Israelis who have already been shown to have lied constantly since October 7 and indeed since 1947.
Expert analysis has also found many of the videos purported to have been taken by Hamas operatives, wow, they were busy, are fakes.
And since October 7 most of the hyperbolic atrocity claims made by Israel have been categorically debunked. No evidence or witnesses for mass rape, no beheaded babies, no babies hung on lines, no babies microwaved etc. etc. etc.
The new maxim is an Israeli charge is an Israeli confession. What the Israelis say the Palestinian Resistance, code-name Hamas, one of a dozen factions, gotta have a name for a demon hey, do is what Israelis do and are doing.
That has been confirmed by the many videos put out by the Israeli SSS, Sadistic Sicko Soldiers gloating, glorifying, cheering, applauding their atrocities.
Things like running over the bodies of dead and injured Palestinian men, women and children with their tanks and then complaining it took so long to clear the body bits, particularly little kids hands and feet, out of their treads they had to stop doing it. No morality involved, just too much hard work.
And we have seen them, courtesy of their own videos, dressing up in the lingerie of women they have murdered, tying the toys of kids they have killed to their tanks, destroying Palestinian homes, defecating in Palestinian homes, raping Palestinian prisoners, including sodomising with gun barrels one poor bastard.
I could go on but NOTHING in your clips comes close to the atrocities committed by the Israeli soldiers and filmed by them and released publicly because they are proud of it. All of which says that Israeli State, society and culture are mentally sick to the point of psychopathic insanity. The Palestinians, including Hamas, by comparison are civilized.
"I could go on but NOTHING in your clips comes close to the atrocities committed by the Israeli soldiers and filmed by them and released publicly because they are proud of it. "
There is NO 'acceptable' level to atrocities. Once one commits atrocities against innocent people, they have lost ALL legitimacy in my mind and I don't care the slightest (not even a tiny bit!) what came before they committed said atrocities and what the other side did that made their own actions legitimate in their eyes.
Hamas are murderous psychopaths (including against THEIR OWN people) just like the Zionists are murderous psychopaths (including against THEIR OWN people).
There are NO 'better' or 'worse' murderous psychopaths!
Surely that is not hard to understand and accept, right?
You said: Hamas are murderous psychopaths (including against THEIR OWN people)
And you believe that. I do not because until the occupation ends and there are independent studies done we actually have no idea just what Hamas is or does or did.
As an example, if Hamas were murderous psychopaths why did they win the 2006 Legislative election in Occupied Palestine? Yes, Israel as the military colonial ruler overturned it so they were elected to nothing, but many Palestinians voted for them. The view at the time was that unlike the PLO, Hamas was not corrupt and it was effective in helping to make life bearable. That makes sense.
Most Hamas senior figures have been in Israeli prisons for decades. Those remaining in the Gaza concentration camp have, according to the UN and international aid agencies been highly effective in making life bearable and semi-functional for the people.
If they were murderous psychopaths why would they work for the good? And if they were murderous psychopaths why would so many attest that they actually helped improve life for the people despite the appalling conditions, i.e regular sonic booms to torture people and bombings every couple of years to cull younger generations and so the Israelis could test their weapons.
Hamas has been efficient as a prisoner support group in a concentration camp. Hardly sounds like murderous psychopaths.
And if Israel did not occupy all of Palestine and subject its people to sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery for 76 years Hamas would not exist. In fact it did not exist until 1987 and then was created with the help of the Israelis who have funded it as well.
So, why would the Israelis need Hamas, originally created as a foil against the secular PLO?
Well, there is Hamas for real which none of us know and there is the Hamas as described by Israel which is most likely to be lies.
I must admit I find it both pathetic and creepy when Israelis or supporters go on about how awful Hamas is and how the Palestinians need to be free of Hamas when the ones dropping the bombs, sending the bullets, starving them and murdering their children are Israelis.
Okay, so let us go with what you say that none of the clips you have posted came from the Israelis.
What is the point of trying to demonise Hamas or the Palestinian Resistance or the Palestinians when they are the victims in this colonial war?
That means they are in the right and Israel is in the wrong.
By all means condemn atrocities wherever they happen but you seem to be trying to make some sort of case that because Hamas has done terrible things that it is okay for Israel to maintain the occupation and do even more terrible things. That is irrational and unjust.
The French and Polish Resistance did some terrible things but they were still deemed to be in the right and the German occupiers in the wrong. In fact we fought on their side. For the same reasons anyone with intelligence and ethics has to be on the side of the Palestinians and that includes Hamas.
Indeed 66% of young American Jews support the Palestinians and Hamas as do most Americans which is quite a turnaround.
"you seem to be trying to make some sort of case that because Hamas has done terrible things that it is okay for Israel to maintain the occupation and do even more terrible things. That is irrational and unjust."
Where did I even REMOTELY try to make such a case?
Please provide a direct quote from anything I said so far in our exchange that even remotely suggests that?
"Indeed 66% of young American Jews support the Palestinians and Hamas as do most Americans which is quite a turnaround."
Supporting the Palestinian cause is NOT the same as supporting Hamas. Can you not understand that? I support the Palestinian cause myself but still hold the firm stance that Hamas are murderous psychopaths, including against their own people.
Also, the views the majority of the population hold are frankly of no interest to me whatsoever. The majority have also allowed themselves to be injected (and demonised those who didn't) and nudging people into holding certain views is super easy.
Were made to appear they didn’t come from the Israeli terrorist regime, This perverse regime is just one more puppet of the anti soul consciousness Trillionaire parasite caste
One living human tapestry is interesting and desperately sad. Israeli kids are brainwashed from birth to hate, fear and kill and no-one who understands or knows the society, and Zionism is at all surprised that after three generations people are mentally deranged. What a sick, sad, evil society it is and for the sake of Israelis perhaps even more than anyone else, the State must be eradicated.
If Israel were an individual it would have been locked up long ago to protect itself and everyone else. A deranged psychotic lunatic with nuclear weapons is a threat to everyone.
I have spent time in what is called Israel and been lucky enough to drive around Occupied Palestine when one still could, many years ago. And I have worked with and for Israelis. I feel deep compassion for them because I know they could never have done or been the terrible evil that they are without the support of the world at large.
Zionist Israel is a taint on the world, devoid of humanity, ethics, integrity and reason, and it is a poisonous stain on Judaism, created not just by lunatic Zionists, Jews and Israelis but by the world at large which has enabled it in its madness since 1947. It should have been called to account long ago. Now it must be dismantled.
Unfortunately because Hamas is part of a legitimate Resistance Militia, with a right to take up arms against their oppressor, Israel, they are on the side of right, justice, rule of law and that makes them the good guys.
That is not to say that they are without fault, nor that at times they have not committed atrocities, BUT in the situation it is very simple - Israel is the aggressor and the Palestinians, including Hamas are the innocent victims.
Any understanding of psychology would also say that if an occupier treats those it rules and to whom it denies civil and human rights, with bestial savagery and sadistic cruelty then the response is likely to be violent. The remarkable thing is how non-violent the Palestinians have been over 76 years.
The barbaric savagery and cruelty of the Israelis over three generations must have created some dysfunction, particularly the generation formed in the Gaza concentration camp over the past 20 years subjected to horrendous mental and physical torment, torture, bombs, bullets, malnutrition - see what that does to a kid inflicted from birth.
The French Resistance committed atrocities also but they were deemed to be the good guys and their German occupiers the ones at fault. No different for the Palestinians including Hamas.
If Palestine had not been invaded and colonised by Europeans there would be no Hamas.
If Palestine had been invaded and colonised but not in genocidal slaughter and the Europeans had not been fascist, racist, savages and thugs there would probably be no Hamas.
If Palestine had been invaded and colonised, even with genocidal slaughter and savagery but the Israelis had come to their senses and to civilized principles and created one state with full and equal rights for the native Palestinians and the European colonists then Hamas would not exist.
All violence is the fault of the Israeli military colonial occupation regime and the Zionists and Jews who invaded in 1947.
Hamas is NOT a "legitimate Resistance Militia" and should NOT be treated as such by anyone....EVER.
One side committing atrocities doesn't justify the other side responding with some atrocities of their own.
There are NO "acceptable" levels in atrocities that if you ensure you stay within those, you can be considered as the "good guy/girl".
Many Palestinians in Gaza will tell you that themselves. Probably the majority at this point.
Hamas is using the Palestinian civilians as cannon fodder just like the Zionist government headed by Netanyahu and his Junta are doing the exact same thing to the Israeli civilians.
The discussion on whether the Palestinians should have their own nation and govern themselves is an entirely different conversation and a much bigger discussion.
Have you reviewed ANY of the material I provided? If not, please do and I am happy to continue the conversation then.
What we need is LESS emotion and MORE rational discussions based on knowledge of the facts.
Yes I have looked at some of your material and there is no discussion on whether Palestinians should have their own State in what is left of their country, if not all of it, because that is a given.
There is nothing to discuss because of course Palestinians should live in freedom in their homeland, either all of it or most of it.
Hamas is one of a dozen factions in the Palestinian Resistance in Gaza and every single one of them has a right under international law to exist.
As to one side committing atrocities, even if everything you say about Hamas were true, and it is not, they are benign by comparison to the atrocities committed by Zionists, Israelis and Jews for more than a century. Let us start with the Jewish terrorist gangs on their bloody rampages in Palestine from the 1920's. Then move on to the documented, even Haaretz has written about it, barbarism from 1947 - babies getting their heads bashed in, women raped then burned alive, children shot or burned alive by Zionist Jewish forces.
Give me a break. Nothing the Palestinians or Hamas have ever done comes close to the bestial savagery of Zionists, Israelis and Jews.
And if Hamas is using the Palestinian civilians as cannon fodder then you are saying the Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto were using the Polish civilians as cannon fodder. That is ridiculous.
Most Palestinians support Hamas in the same way most French supported the French Resistance. Why would they not?
Israel murders Palestinians who resist peacefully, resist violently or do not resist at all. They have nothing to lose.
Is ISIS legitimate resistance in your mind? What about the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia?
I don't want to clog Alison's comment thread with this discussion. If you want to continue then I am happy to do so on Notes but I maintain my firm stance that Hamas is NOT a "legitimate resistance" but rather murderous thugs!
You are actually quite wrong. The heart of Zionism is:
1) the Bible, where God promised the land to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and Moses; and
2) History, which proves the existence of the Temple in Jerusalem and the Jewish kingdoms. This justifies the Jewish national expression in their traditional homeland as a de-colonialist return and legitimate expression. It also pretty much debunks the Pal lies about their non-existent history there.
It has nothing to do with British pokitics, except the use of the politics to achieve its aim.
Zionism was a SECULAR movement whose ENTIRE leadership was from the get go and for a very very long time comprised entirely of SECULAR Jews.
Herzl was not just a completely secular but before he became the frontman for Zionism advocated very very strongly for Jews to completely assimilate and abandon ALL remnants of their 'jewishness' (whatever that is). He was also an all around terrible human.
The idea of Zionism as a political movement did NOT originate from Jews and when it was first floated, most Jews at the time were vehemently opposed to it. Things changed dramatically after the holocaust.
The truth is about facts and facts do not care the slightest about your, mine or anyone's emotions.
Michael, you use the word "was" and I used the word "is".
Yes, the Zionist movement was led by secular Jews. The reason they did not choose to establish a nation for the Jews in other countries, even those that offered it, was that that solution was unacceptable to religious Jews (of all levels of religiosity).
Jews have prayed 3 times a day, every day of our dispersion, for return to the Promised Land. Israel and that land is in the centre of our religion.
Additionally, Zionism is today defined as belief that the Jewish people have the right to national self-determination in their traditional homeland. The temple and kingdoms prove that the homeland was traditionally ours, that we were there prior to any so-called 'Palestinians', and debunks their claims to the land.
Last but not least, the original mandate from the British covered 4x the land area of Israel today. 75% was hived off as a homeland "for the Arabs of the region". That area is now Jordan, and the Arabs you call Palestinians have their state there. Jordan's population is, after all, 80% 'Palestinian' - of the same ethnic stock as those living in Judea and Samaria. They were uncomplaining Jordanians until Israel won back the territory in 1967. They should be given back that nationality, which is rightfully theirs.
British population records also show a very large immigration of Arabs into mandated land between 1900 and 1948. Their origins are reflected in their surnames - Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and in the case of Gaza, Egypt. They came because the Jews eliminated Malaria and built an economy where they could work, trade and live better. Those people are what I call 'Johnny come latelies', and they have no claim to the land - not them (of whom hardly any still live) or their offspring, especially those in so-called 'refugee camps'.
Alison writes that the Aust. Greens want "international socialism" in Aust. Now some time back in Federal Parliament, as I recall, all Senate members were asked to reveal their links to the WEF. Only Sarah Hanson-Young wanted to reply and said that she was a Young Global Leader. What are the other Greens hiding? The WEF is touting the biodigital convergence, which is transhumanism.
As Mary Harrington writes in the UK, the contraceptive pill was the first transhumanist success. The Greens are the party of My Body, My Choice (except for mRNA shots). They are the genderist party of "trans rights", ie servants of the medical-pharma complex which sees big money in the ideology that we are all just collections of body parts that can be inserted or removed in line with our "gender", ie there is no biological sex. See Substack by Jennifer Bilek,
Hence the Greens are not socialist at all but corporatist/communitarian.
Max Igan, on his platform The Crow House, has been reported extensively on the situation in Gaza and West Bank. Please watch a few of his videos and you may change your mind.
I have seen the video of the beheaded and dismembered children, of the sniper wounds on children, and children burnt to death.
Independent Jewish American ladies who wanted to see for themselves, reported the genocide and the war crimes being committed by the Israelis.
It is not a lie that children are being targeted, or prisoners raped.
The soldiers themselves admit this, and proudly proclaim that "Today's child is tomorrow's terrorist: why wait?".
It is the stated policy to eradicate the Palestinians from Palestine, and even Trump is openly stating that the USA will turn Palestine into the "New Riviera".
Ethnic cleansing was once considered a crime, but is now seen as a brilliant business opportunity.
If this were being done by anyone other than the Israelis, it would be condemned, and we all would be sending money and weapons to the Palestinians to resist this tyranny, as we are for Ukraine.
Maybe if the Palestinians just identified as Ukrainian, this would all be resolved in the Palestinians' favour?
But Israel does behead children. International doctors have stated that most of the bodies they see are children and often they are headless. Israel knows nearly half of those in the Gaza concentration camp are children and it drops four or eight 20,000 pound bombs onto plastic tent camps often in areas it has told Palestinians are safe. That does not just behead children it evaporates them.
And international doctors have clearly stated that Israeli snipers are shooting children in the head and heart, even toddlers. Dr Mark Perlmutter, an American Jew and doctor who helped in Gaza, brought out Xrays showing kids shot in the head and heart. They are he said, perfect shots and no child gets shot twice by mistake with perfect shots to the head and heart.
https://thecradle.co/articles-id/26071
Most sane people would hate anyone who inflicts such sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery on anyone and worse on children and that includes Jews.
As with all wars, the truth is bombed away first. I am in no position to argue about these atrocities undoubtedly on both sides, but I am moved to add my tuppence worth that no government which is prepared to proudly use its own citizens as guinea pigs for transfection injections is ever to be trusted again about anything. https://www.vaxtestimonies.org/en/
Agree 100%! The Israeli government is responsible for atrocities and so is Hamas. Whipping up hate in our own society is also irresponsible but is what we have come to expect from the Greens who betrayed us so soundly in 2020 and ongoing.
'There is no evidence that Israel beheads children or uses snipers to shoot children or deliberately bombs children. Israel says it tries to minimise civilian casualties, a difficult task when Hamas fighters hide among the civilian population."
I dunno about that, Alison. Seems to me that the Israelis wage war in a far more Torahnnical way than that:
וַֽיַּחֲרִ֙ימוּ֙ אֶת־כׇּל־אֲשֶׁ֣ר בָּעִ֔יר מֵאִישׁ֙ וְעַד־אִשָּׁ֔ה מִנַּ֖עַר וְעַד־זָקֵ֑ן וְעַ֨ד שׁ֥וֹר
וָשֶׂ֛ה וַחֲמ֖וֹר לְפִי־חָֽרֶב׃
(Joshua 6:21 - "And they shall utterly destroy all that is in the city, both man and woman, both young and old, and ox and donkey, with the edge of the sword.")
As other commenters have noted, they're damn proud of it too...
6) Murray is a populist cretin, because it is NOT A WAR. Under international laws Israel ILLEGALLY occupies Gaza and The West Bank, and is an Occupying Power, and it has OBLIGATIONS for the safeguard of those it OCCUPIES. The OCCUPIED PEOPLE ( The Palestinains) have every RIGHT TO RESIST under the law, and cannot be collectively punished for doing so.
You're willfully ignorant of basic facts that can be easily searched and verified because you're a genocide apologist, and you don't want to know the truth because you have either religious or racist motivations. Which is it? 🤔
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2025/mar/opinion-israels-war-gaza-deliberately-targeting-children-new-un-report
The onus is on YOU to PROVE that Israel is not targeting children, despite statements from IDF commanders caught on film directing troops to do so.
This article is a full of untruths as are the Greens with their Globalist Warming Bullshit; true Jews have lived in peace in the middle east for centuries, and still do even in Iran. The rabid Khazarian false Jews are Satanic and through other Satanic/Luciferian supremacist groups such as Freemasons and Jesuits, have corrupted Christianity and Judaism with sacrificial child abuse as a foundational link to the psychopathic mind, in essence to turn off the God gene that is present and active in all true human beings.
There is a fairly plausible argument the Islam was specifically created to supply a third party to create the fear and hatred of conflict that overrides the influence of the god gene, with early the early childhood mutilation of circumcision being a major factor.
Seems to me ATM, this article fails to provide much evidence or specifics of "attacks on innocent Jews" it refers to? ..any video or charges laid?...also, fails to put Oct 3rd into the context of near 80yrs of "murder, theft & deception" coming from the global Israel "machine" which has been instrumental in stealing the Palestinians land, inch by inch, from under their feet for near 80yrs. Look at the territory over time maps. The "Empire MIC", which is global, is brilliant as framing "Israel" as "the victims"... when clearly it is almost always been the aggressor & expanding its territory, & attacking often completely defenceless"neighbours". The seemingly irrefutable genocide currently happening now as "a response" to Oct 3d (NB- ICJ & ICC judgements) (where incidentaly, reportedly Palestinians were previously visibly practising Hang Glider the operations" to (possibly) attack is media framed as a response.. ...however, a "response" in self defence must be "proportional" & clearly Israel's arial bombardment & murdering now, & starvation is nothing of the sort. Lastly, the Oct 3rd "stories" we are told about some experts are saying were a "let it happen on purpose" event to justify yet another massive expansion into "Palestine territory". Many good experts to listen to, Vanessa Beeley (whose father was UK Ambassador to the Arab Regions) is on Sub-Stack also, many great Israeli reporters too. I could be wrong but "context" is the issue here or please advise.
The "Palestinians" never started a war on October 7 but they have been the victims of a genocide by the IDF with American support. The persecution of the Palestinian people has been brutal and barbaric but as for the journalism around the real story ....it's as pathetic and blind to the truth as it has always been....wake up people ...you are being lied to once again ....🙏
Your bias has this arse-about backwards. Innocent until proven guilty is how our courts are run, and that principle has worked very well for a long, long time.
You make the claim, you provide the proof, otherwise it is nothing more than an unsubstantiated opinion which I can get from any street corner. Pretty worthless, except for what it says of the speaker's bias.
I’ll give Israel max 10 years before its welcome collapse & removal from the map of the ME. The record for states that commit genocide is pretty clear - they don’t survive long. Here are just a few: Ottoman Turkey, Nazi Germany, Khmer Rouge Cambodia, Rwanda, Yugoslavia. As an aside - I don’t know why this genocide supporting author found her way into my Substack feed, but based on this article, if she had a shred of decency, she would die of shame.
Bravo! The rational way for society to deal with 'hate' is:
(1) find out what the fear is that spawned it
(2) take effective actions to convincingly eliminate those fear perceptions
(3) Eliminate the Fear and you'll eliminate the Hate.
If you are Jewish, feeling 'Jew hatred', find out what the Haters fear about Jews & then try to eliminate those fears by behaving in ways that will reassure them that they have nothing to fear from you. There's no need to 'hate back' or prepare for combat with those who hate you. Just find out what they are afraid of & then use your brain to find ways to assuage their fears.
Incidentally, from 1958 to 1964, Israel committed 17,000 acts of aggression across borders with Arab countries, when neither Hamas, Hizbullah nor the PLO existed.
We should also remember Tacitus's famous summary, “The Jews are unique among the peoples of the world in their intense hatred & contempt for peoples but their own.” Anti-Jewish stereotypes in the 15th century:
- Jews are evil
- Jews lie
- Jews steal
- Jews are selfish
- Jews always play the victim
- Jews kill children
Reality of most Jews in the 21st century:
- Jews are evil
- Jews lie
- Jews steal
- Jews are selfish
- Jews always play the victim
- Jews kill children
What more can be said?
That you are an anti Semite?
That your accusations are absurd because they don't conform to observed reality?
This IS a bit 'Rich'. Whilst other patrons on Social Media, are 'Kicked off' their platforms for Apparently 'Violation of Platform 'Conditions'', especially under CONVID 'something', IDF 'ACTIVE' Members, Post their Einsatzgruppen style 'Deeds & Antics' on 'X' - WITHOUT any 'Issues', for ALL the world to observe.
Next; HAMAS, IS a MOSSAD/Israeli 'Asset'!
Next; THE IDF, IS a 'Citizen Army'. = Fathers, Mothers, Sons, Daughters, Uncles, Aunts,Nephews & Nieces ALL serve - ALL 'Know' what they do!
Isreali's@Large SHOULD know, What their COMIC DO & CAN DO - to them! THE 7th/Oct /2024, IS just another 'False Flagging' Event ('Shifted' to THAT Location - ON Purpose a couple of days previous to the 'Event'! MOST of the 'Jewish' Civilian Casualties of the 'Event', WERE BY IDF & Israeli Special Forces, under ISRAEL'S 'Hannibal Protocol' - I think you'll find that Hamas DOESN'T OWN, Helicopter Gunships with Night Vision 'Enhancements'! (And the Droning of 'Hamas' Hang-gliders across one of the Planet's MOST Electronic Surveilled Frontiers, IS 'Pathetic'!
WE have (Check Social Media) Israeli Pop & Rock bands, 'Celebrating' the Demise of ANY & ALL Palestinians, with large projected Images of Desolation Central (Most of the once thriving Palestinian Cities and Towns), and Victims of Indiscriminant Israeli Bombing & Shelling, whilst the Popular Jewish 'Mob' Shout & Celebrate! IDF Commanders 'Allow', Sniping of ANY AND ALL Palestinian Citizens - Especially if they are 'Bored'. Palestinian citizens (Any age or sex) ARE Brutalised & Violated regularly, under IDF 'Custody', against International convention - Documented after/When, IF 'Released'! THE Dismembered remains of Children (whether from Ordinance deployment or 'other' - is not Clear), are placed in trees for All to see = WHO does that as a 'Civilised' member of ANY Society?
Zionism; THE Balfour Agreement (1917). WW 1- USE UP the Local Arab support in Palestine & Locally, to 'Neutrilise' Turkey, out of the War- Promising Everything, Including Arab Homelands - THEN Reneg on the Deal once operations are Completed! (That's the British S.O.P. - And, 'Concentration Camps' = British idea.).
Next > The Early 1930's; THIS IS the Crew, that had a Pact with the Nazi 3rd Reich 1933/34 Complex, to 'FORCIBLY persuade/Leverage' ALL Euro Jews to move to Palestine (As the NEO Jewish Central Homeland) By ANY & ALL 'Means Necessary' (Brutalisations, Commerce closures, Ghetto-isations, Concentrations). The 'Head of Operations' in this ZION/NAZI Pact 'Transition office' was Senior officer Adolph Eichmann. (Why do folks think that Zionists & MOSSAD, wanted this Officer 'Eradicated'? = 'Loose ends'- Along with records & other Personnel; Thanks - I.B.M).
Last; Apart from the Extended Ancient Persian Empire encompassing 'Occupied' Palestine, where else do we see such Massive Trauma, especially 'Targeted' against Infants, kids, women & Menfolk (Indescriminantly or PURPOSEFUL, STRATEGIC State Policy) WITHOUT International or Adjacent
Member States, ACTUALLY Stepping up to the Civilised Plate, And ENFORCING The 'STOP THIS
CRAP' -PROCESS?? WHAT'S THAT? = _______________Crickets! Even the Commies & Fascist operations of NotMyGov.con.aEwe, Are 'Quiet for their Masters.'
'Stirring the Pot'; This is an OLD Process. U.S troops were shown Photos of Nazi concentration camps (Known for Years - & No matter the reasoning of events)prior to D-Day landings. U.S Troops were shown Photos of Chemical victims - Predominantly Kids (No matter the Authentic 'Source') Prior to Desert Storm Ops. (Ironic in todays Palestinian Liquidations By IDF Policy). THE U.N has casualty figures & Palestinian Demographics of Population = This would be an Indictment against ANY Nation, in this case - ISRAEL! 'Kicked out of 105 + Countries, over 1,000 'Incidents' = Common Denominator??
As for the 'Greens' - Perhaps they could visit, the Planet 'Earth', Maybe even Australia - for
Grounding!
After all of that - Wellness & Unity - John D. 4th Gen Citizen
Hamas is most certainly a Mossad asset, which in turn is an asset of the Central Banking/Robber Baron crime families that will get their soulless puppets to do absolutely anything to keep humanity off balance and out of our Right Minds, while they milk us of everything that is good and decent
That'd be part of THE, & Amongst other SWISS 'Above Sovereign State & International Law' Crew = THE B.I.S. = Bank of International Settlements. - 'Nice' of them to give themselves tis EXCLUSIVE Status! LOL!
Wellness & Unity - John D.
Here are a few pieces of content (with the events in chronological order) that may give people a fresh perspective on what the State of Israel REALLY is and what it is REALLY capable of...towards its own Jewish citizens:
https://rumble.com/v6rjiut-israels-official-2021-independence-day-celebrations-proudly-brought-to-you-.html
https://rumble.com/vr6ykv-police-brutality-at-an-israeli-protest-for-human-rights.html
https://rumble.com/v3ofv1h-horrific-incitement-against-unvaccinated-israelis-by-their-own-media-and-po.html
https://actionabletruth.substack.com/p/blue-shirts-october-7
https://rumble.com/v5l3gh8-proof-the-israeli-air-force-did-carry-out-the-hannibal-directive-on-its-own.html
I am not saying that Hamas are even remotely the good guys in this story...but neither is the Zionist entity.
Also, calling the State of Israel the "Jewish homeland" is only appropriate for people who wish ALL Jews to be DEAD!
Judaism (whether the 'ethnicity' or the actual religious doctrine) and Zionism are in direct opposition to each other which make sense given the origins of Zionism:
"The heart of Zionism is British geopolitics set up by Lord Palmerston, Queen Victoria and the United Grand Lodge of Masons. Zionism is not Judaism. Christian Zionism is not Christianity. Zionism is British Freemasonry."
https://rumble.com/v5pdohb-the-british-origins-of-zionism.html
If Hamas are not the good guys, along with the dozen other factions in the Palestinian Resistance then you are saying the French and Polish Resistance and the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, in the same situation, taking up arms against their bestial occupier, were not good guys either. That is ridiculous.
Under international law Hamas and the Palestinian Resistance are clearly the good guys because they have the right to fight for justice and freedom in their homeland.
The weird thing is how many Jews allow Israel to claim it represents them.
If we apply logic then when Israel says it is the Jewish state, it is saying it represents Judaism and Jews.
Which means that whatever Israel is or does is representative of Judaic and Jewish beliefs, values and practices.
Which says, that 76 years of well documented actions and policy by Israel - invasion, occupation, genocide, ethnic cleansing, colonisation,
rape - including of children,
torture - including of children,
murder - particularly and intentionally of children,
theft, destruction, sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery are policies and practices of Judaism and Jews.
Why would any sane Jew ever allow the State of Israel to get away with claiming it represents them and their religion?
"Under international law Hamas and the Palestinian Resistance are clearly the good guys because they have the right to fight for justice and freedom in their homeland."
With the greatest respect, you don't have the full picture either.
Hamas are definitely NOT the good guys and that's the opinion of many (if not most) of the Palestinians in Gaza themselves:
https://rumble.com/v6semxx-will-the-people-of-gaza-overthrow-hamas.html
https://youtu.be/pItmInjenfk
https://youtu.be/R85kR9DgH78
https://substack.com/@michaelginsburg/note/c-112151030
What is shown in these clips are NOT the actions of a legitimate fighting force/resistance and therefore should not be treated as such....but that doesn't even remotely mean that I justify the Gaza genocide:
https://rumble.com/v62e5l2-hamas-kills-three-unarmed-israelis-on-october-7.html
https://rumble.com/v62e6fw-hamas-atrocities-on-october-7.html
https://rumble.com/v5v5qyt-october-7-blue-shirts-raw-footage.html
https://rumble.com/v5tuxpn-october-7-as-captured-through-hamas-cameras.html
The obsession of figuring out the "goodies" from the "baddies" is what is gonna get us ALL KILLED!!
https://rumble.com/v6pvgs8-one-living-human-tapestry.html
You are free to hold whatever views you see fit but at least make sure these views are well informed and based on complete and accurate FACTS.
Otherwise, it is ok to also not have a view at all. I don't have a view on many things I have no knowledge (or interest) in.
Re: your clips. I looked at some but unfortunately most if not all of them have come from the Israelis who have already been shown to have lied constantly since October 7 and indeed since 1947.
Expert analysis has also found many of the videos purported to have been taken by Hamas operatives, wow, they were busy, are fakes.
And since October 7 most of the hyperbolic atrocity claims made by Israel have been categorically debunked. No evidence or witnesses for mass rape, no beheaded babies, no babies hung on lines, no babies microwaved etc. etc. etc.
The new maxim is an Israeli charge is an Israeli confession. What the Israelis say the Palestinian Resistance, code-name Hamas, one of a dozen factions, gotta have a name for a demon hey, do is what Israelis do and are doing.
That has been confirmed by the many videos put out by the Israeli SSS, Sadistic Sicko Soldiers gloating, glorifying, cheering, applauding their atrocities.
Things like running over the bodies of dead and injured Palestinian men, women and children with their tanks and then complaining it took so long to clear the body bits, particularly little kids hands and feet, out of their treads they had to stop doing it. No morality involved, just too much hard work.
And we have seen them, courtesy of their own videos, dressing up in the lingerie of women they have murdered, tying the toys of kids they have killed to their tanks, destroying Palestinian homes, defecating in Palestinian homes, raping Palestinian prisoners, including sodomising with gun barrels one poor bastard.
I could go on but NOTHING in your clips comes close to the atrocities committed by the Israeli soldiers and filmed by them and released publicly because they are proud of it. All of which says that Israeli State, society and culture are mentally sick to the point of psychopathic insanity. The Palestinians, including Hamas, by comparison are civilized.
NONE of these came from the Israelis. Not even one!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItmInjenfk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R85kR9DgH78
https://rumble.com/v5v5qyt-october-7-blue-shirts-raw-footage.html
https://rumble.com/v62e6fw-hamas-atrocities-on-october-7.html
https://substack.com/@michaelginsburg/note/c-112151030
"I could go on but NOTHING in your clips comes close to the atrocities committed by the Israeli soldiers and filmed by them and released publicly because they are proud of it. "
There is NO 'acceptable' level to atrocities. Once one commits atrocities against innocent people, they have lost ALL legitimacy in my mind and I don't care the slightest (not even a tiny bit!) what came before they committed said atrocities and what the other side did that made their own actions legitimate in their eyes.
Hamas are murderous psychopaths (including against THEIR OWN people) just like the Zionists are murderous psychopaths (including against THEIR OWN people).
There are NO 'better' or 'worse' murderous psychopaths!
Surely that is not hard to understand and accept, right?
You said: Hamas are murderous psychopaths (including against THEIR OWN people)
And you believe that. I do not because until the occupation ends and there are independent studies done we actually have no idea just what Hamas is or does or did.
As an example, if Hamas were murderous psychopaths why did they win the 2006 Legislative election in Occupied Palestine? Yes, Israel as the military colonial ruler overturned it so they were elected to nothing, but many Palestinians voted for them. The view at the time was that unlike the PLO, Hamas was not corrupt and it was effective in helping to make life bearable. That makes sense.
Most Hamas senior figures have been in Israeli prisons for decades. Those remaining in the Gaza concentration camp have, according to the UN and international aid agencies been highly effective in making life bearable and semi-functional for the people.
If they were murderous psychopaths why would they work for the good? And if they were murderous psychopaths why would so many attest that they actually helped improve life for the people despite the appalling conditions, i.e regular sonic booms to torture people and bombings every couple of years to cull younger generations and so the Israelis could test their weapons.
Hamas has been efficient as a prisoner support group in a concentration camp. Hardly sounds like murderous psychopaths.
And if Israel did not occupy all of Palestine and subject its people to sadistic cruelty and bestial savagery for 76 years Hamas would not exist. In fact it did not exist until 1987 and then was created with the help of the Israelis who have funded it as well.
So, why would the Israelis need Hamas, originally created as a foil against the secular PLO?
Well, there is Hamas for real which none of us know and there is the Hamas as described by Israel which is most likely to be lies.
I must admit I find it both pathetic and creepy when Israelis or supporters go on about how awful Hamas is and how the Palestinians need to be free of Hamas when the ones dropping the bombs, sending the bullets, starving them and murdering their children are Israelis.
Okay, so let us go with what you say that none of the clips you have posted came from the Israelis.
What is the point of trying to demonise Hamas or the Palestinian Resistance or the Palestinians when they are the victims in this colonial war?
That means they are in the right and Israel is in the wrong.
By all means condemn atrocities wherever they happen but you seem to be trying to make some sort of case that because Hamas has done terrible things that it is okay for Israel to maintain the occupation and do even more terrible things. That is irrational and unjust.
The French and Polish Resistance did some terrible things but they were still deemed to be in the right and the German occupiers in the wrong. In fact we fought on their side. For the same reasons anyone with intelligence and ethics has to be on the side of the Palestinians and that includes Hamas.
Indeed 66% of young American Jews support the Palestinians and Hamas as do most Americans which is quite a turnaround.
"you seem to be trying to make some sort of case that because Hamas has done terrible things that it is okay for Israel to maintain the occupation and do even more terrible things. That is irrational and unjust."
Where did I even REMOTELY try to make such a case?
Please provide a direct quote from anything I said so far in our exchange that even remotely suggests that?
"Indeed 66% of young American Jews support the Palestinians and Hamas as do most Americans which is quite a turnaround."
Supporting the Palestinian cause is NOT the same as supporting Hamas. Can you not understand that? I support the Palestinian cause myself but still hold the firm stance that Hamas are murderous psychopaths, including against their own people.
Also, the views the majority of the population hold are frankly of no interest to me whatsoever. The majority have also allowed themselves to be injected (and demonised those who didn't) and nudging people into holding certain views is super easy.
Were made to appear they didn’t come from the Israeli terrorist regime, This perverse regime is just one more puppet of the anti soul consciousness Trillionaire parasite caste
One living human tapestry is interesting and desperately sad. Israeli kids are brainwashed from birth to hate, fear and kill and no-one who understands or knows the society, and Zionism is at all surprised that after three generations people are mentally deranged. What a sick, sad, evil society it is and for the sake of Israelis perhaps even more than anyone else, the State must be eradicated.
If Israel were an individual it would have been locked up long ago to protect itself and everyone else. A deranged psychotic lunatic with nuclear weapons is a threat to everyone.
I have spent time in what is called Israel and been lucky enough to drive around Occupied Palestine when one still could, many years ago. And I have worked with and for Israelis. I feel deep compassion for them because I know they could never have done or been the terrible evil that they are without the support of the world at large.
Zionist Israel is a taint on the world, devoid of humanity, ethics, integrity and reason, and it is a poisonous stain on Judaism, created not just by lunatic Zionists, Jews and Israelis but by the world at large which has enabled it in its madness since 1947. It should have been called to account long ago. Now it must be dismantled.
Unfortunately because Hamas is part of a legitimate Resistance Militia, with a right to take up arms against their oppressor, Israel, they are on the side of right, justice, rule of law and that makes them the good guys.
That is not to say that they are without fault, nor that at times they have not committed atrocities, BUT in the situation it is very simple - Israel is the aggressor and the Palestinians, including Hamas are the innocent victims.
Any understanding of psychology would also say that if an occupier treats those it rules and to whom it denies civil and human rights, with bestial savagery and sadistic cruelty then the response is likely to be violent. The remarkable thing is how non-violent the Palestinians have been over 76 years.
The barbaric savagery and cruelty of the Israelis over three generations must have created some dysfunction, particularly the generation formed in the Gaza concentration camp over the past 20 years subjected to horrendous mental and physical torment, torture, bombs, bullets, malnutrition - see what that does to a kid inflicted from birth.
The French Resistance committed atrocities also but they were deemed to be the good guys and their German occupiers the ones at fault. No different for the Palestinians including Hamas.
If Palestine had not been invaded and colonised by Europeans there would be no Hamas.
If Palestine had been invaded and colonised but not in genocidal slaughter and the Europeans had not been fascist, racist, savages and thugs there would probably be no Hamas.
If Palestine had been invaded and colonised, even with genocidal slaughter and savagery but the Israelis had come to their senses and to civilized principles and created one state with full and equal rights for the native Palestinians and the European colonists then Hamas would not exist.
All violence is the fault of the Israeli military colonial occupation regime and the Zionists and Jews who invaded in 1947.
Hamas is NOT a "legitimate Resistance Militia" and should NOT be treated as such by anyone....EVER.
One side committing atrocities doesn't justify the other side responding with some atrocities of their own.
There are NO "acceptable" levels in atrocities that if you ensure you stay within those, you can be considered as the "good guy/girl".
Many Palestinians in Gaza will tell you that themselves. Probably the majority at this point.
Hamas is using the Palestinian civilians as cannon fodder just like the Zionist government headed by Netanyahu and his Junta are doing the exact same thing to the Israeli civilians.
The discussion on whether the Palestinians should have their own nation and govern themselves is an entirely different conversation and a much bigger discussion.
Have you reviewed ANY of the material I provided? If not, please do and I am happy to continue the conversation then.
What we need is LESS emotion and MORE rational discussions based on knowledge of the facts.
Yes I have looked at some of your material and there is no discussion on whether Palestinians should have their own State in what is left of their country, if not all of it, because that is a given.
There is nothing to discuss because of course Palestinians should live in freedom in their homeland, either all of it or most of it.
Hamas is one of a dozen factions in the Palestinian Resistance in Gaza and every single one of them has a right under international law to exist.
As to one side committing atrocities, even if everything you say about Hamas were true, and it is not, they are benign by comparison to the atrocities committed by Zionists, Israelis and Jews for more than a century. Let us start with the Jewish terrorist gangs on their bloody rampages in Palestine from the 1920's. Then move on to the documented, even Haaretz has written about it, barbarism from 1947 - babies getting their heads bashed in, women raped then burned alive, children shot or burned alive by Zionist Jewish forces.
Give me a break. Nothing the Palestinians or Hamas have ever done comes close to the bestial savagery of Zionists, Israelis and Jews.
And if Hamas is using the Palestinian civilians as cannon fodder then you are saying the Jewish fighters in the Warsaw Ghetto were using the Polish civilians as cannon fodder. That is ridiculous.
Most Palestinians support Hamas in the same way most French supported the French Resistance. Why would they not?
Israel murders Palestinians who resist peacefully, resist violently or do not resist at all. They have nothing to lose.
"Hamas is one of a dozen factions in the Palestinian Resistance in Gaza and every single one of them has a right under international law to exist."
Once again, Hamas is NOT a legitimate resistance and has NO right to exist under international law or otherwise.
People don't rise up against their own resistance which tries to defend them, right?
https://rumble.com/v6semxx-will-the-people-of-gaza-overthrow-hamas.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItmInjenfk
Is ISIS legitimate resistance in your mind? What about the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia?
I don't want to clog Alison's comment thread with this discussion. If you want to continue then I am happy to do so on Notes but I maintain my firm stance that Hamas is NOT a "legitimate resistance" but rather murderous thugs!
You are actually quite wrong. The heart of Zionism is:
1) the Bible, where God promised the land to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and Moses; and
2) History, which proves the existence of the Temple in Jerusalem and the Jewish kingdoms. This justifies the Jewish national expression in their traditional homeland as a de-colonialist return and legitimate expression. It also pretty much debunks the Pal lies about their non-existent history there.
It has nothing to do with British pokitics, except the use of the politics to achieve its aim.
No, it is you who are wrong.
Zionism was a SECULAR movement whose ENTIRE leadership was from the get go and for a very very long time comprised entirely of SECULAR Jews.
Herzl was not just a completely secular but before he became the frontman for Zionism advocated very very strongly for Jews to completely assimilate and abandon ALL remnants of their 'jewishness' (whatever that is). He was also an all around terrible human.
The idea of Zionism as a political movement did NOT originate from Jews and when it was first floated, most Jews at the time were vehemently opposed to it. Things changed dramatically after the holocaust.
The truth is about facts and facts do not care the slightest about your, mine or anyone's emotions.
Michael, you use the word "was" and I used the word "is".
Yes, the Zionist movement was led by secular Jews. The reason they did not choose to establish a nation for the Jews in other countries, even those that offered it, was that that solution was unacceptable to religious Jews (of all levels of religiosity).
Jews have prayed 3 times a day, every day of our dispersion, for return to the Promised Land. Israel and that land is in the centre of our religion.
Additionally, Zionism is today defined as belief that the Jewish people have the right to national self-determination in their traditional homeland. The temple and kingdoms prove that the homeland was traditionally ours, that we were there prior to any so-called 'Palestinians', and debunks their claims to the land.
Last but not least, the original mandate from the British covered 4x the land area of Israel today. 75% was hived off as a homeland "for the Arabs of the region". That area is now Jordan, and the Arabs you call Palestinians have their state there. Jordan's population is, after all, 80% 'Palestinian' - of the same ethnic stock as those living in Judea and Samaria. They were uncomplaining Jordanians until Israel won back the territory in 1967. They should be given back that nationality, which is rightfully theirs.
British population records also show a very large immigration of Arabs into mandated land between 1900 and 1948. Their origins are reflected in their surnames - Syria, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and in the case of Gaza, Egypt. They came because the Jews eliminated Malaria and built an economy where they could work, trade and live better. Those people are what I call 'Johnny come latelies', and they have no claim to the land - not them (of whom hardly any still live) or their offspring, especially those in so-called 'refugee camps'.
Alison writes that the Aust. Greens want "international socialism" in Aust. Now some time back in Federal Parliament, as I recall, all Senate members were asked to reveal their links to the WEF. Only Sarah Hanson-Young wanted to reply and said that she was a Young Global Leader. What are the other Greens hiding? The WEF is touting the biodigital convergence, which is transhumanism.
As Mary Harrington writes in the UK, the contraceptive pill was the first transhumanist success. The Greens are the party of My Body, My Choice (except for mRNA shots). They are the genderist party of "trans rights", ie servants of the medical-pharma complex which sees big money in the ideology that we are all just collections of body parts that can be inserted or removed in line with our "gender", ie there is no biological sex. See Substack by Jennifer Bilek,
Hence the Greens are not socialist at all but corporatist/communitarian.
Max Igan, on his platform The Crow House, has been reported extensively on the situation in Gaza and West Bank. Please watch a few of his videos and you may change your mind.