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Julian Gillespie's avatar

thank you Alison,

.. a thoroughly excellent article about the state of play

Re - who had the authority to approve the contaminated Covid products?

Professor Brendan Murphy was also a named defendant in this action, the First Respondent

.. as the Therapeutic Goods Act sets out quite clearly, the authority to approve the contaminated Covid products was always the "Secretary" being the Secretary of the Department of Health

at all relevant times that was Brendan Murphy

.. senior counsel in this class action knew this to be the case because he was the same senior counsel in our earlier proceedings - The AVN Case and the later Australian Babies Case, Mark Robinson KC

i was responsible for creating the legal opinion for The AVN Case and directly involved thereafter with the drafting of the pleadings with counsel (both senior counsel and junior counsel), and i specifically ensured senior counsel was familiar with the provisional approval pathway, which we subsequently raised in our pleadings

.. that is why for both cases we properly named Brendan Murphy who was then the Secretary

the provisional approval pathway is briefly as follows:

- section 22C: https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/tga1989191/s22c.html

followed by ..

- section 22D: https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/tga1989191/s22d.html

where section 22D requires the criteria under regulation 10L(1)(a) to first be satisfied by the Secretary before a provisional determination (approval) could be granted by the Secretary

- regulation 10L: https://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_reg/tgr1990300/s10l.html

as you can see the person the legislation affords the power and jurisdiction to grant provisional approvals is stated only to be the "Secretary"

how this was not squarely said so in the pleadings of the class action remains unclear - i never saw the final form of the pleadings the subject of the Katzmann decision

but how this mystery continued into the summary dismissal application hearing when oral submissions were provided Re which Commonwealth officer was responsible for the approvals, beggars belief

.. the legislation above is clear

.. how senior counsel managed to not step Justice Katzmann through these straight forward sections to place the issue beyond controversy .. well .. i cannot say in the end because i did not attend the hearing

but something is (indeed many things are) not right with how senior counsel serviced this issue (and the pleadings generally) for the court

to have this one issue feature so prominently in the decision of Katzmann means .. it appears .. some very avoidable mistakes were made

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Alison Bevege's avatar

Thank you Julian, very much indeed. He was named in Justice Katzmann's judgement so therefore was named in the pleadings. My tired eyes just missed it in the first instance then repeated the error. I have fixed it in both cases now thanks to you.

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Vivien C Buckley's avatar

Julian, I am Canadian, but your efforts were much appreciated. The layers upon layers of corruption is daunting. We folk are mere pawns in the greater scheme of things. This corruption is worldwide and unfortunately every country has people in places who have authority and who willingly take cash then bend over backwards to hide their skulduggery at our expense. I’m pfizer injured but what this mess has exposed is the total corruption of our health agencies. As a result our trust in our institutions has evaporated. Can you imagine what would happen if it all was exposed. It really is the story of David and Goliath.

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Duncan A Turner's avatar

"to have this one issue feature so prominently in the decision of Katzmann means .. it appears .. some very avoidable mistakes were made"

Careful, you will get yourself in trouble with Mizz Ayatollah Imam Grant for spreading "disinformation" and seeding baseless "conspiracy theories" about our uniformly ethical senior bureaucrats and their colleagues within the judicial sector!

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Stephanie Brooks's avatar

No doubt everyone has given up having trust in the government, the beurocrats, the judicial system and just about anyone who has the authority to dictate what people can/will/should do. Laws, rules etc in this country and many others are absurd.

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Norman Gilmore's avatar

Yes too many Australians have lost Faith in Health Professionals Judiciary, Order Following Police , paid of Journalists ,Corrupt Politicians and the Church Hierarchy they have all let the People down for 30 Pieces of Silver .

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Stephanie Brooks's avatar

My question to Duncan Turner is who appointed MizzAAyatollah? To my mind he is just as guilty as she is for not doing his homework or did he do it and is in cahoots with her?

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Alison Bevege's avatar

thanks for an excellent comment. You are RIGHT somehow my tired eyes missed that Brendan Murphy was the first respondent, I will amend this story right now

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Louisa Crosslé's avatar

Thank God for you, Julian Gillespie

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Watersnake's avatar

Thank you for lending your experience to the beleaguered team. The obfuscation and gaslighting will only be swept away by our collective broom of experience and wisdom.

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Stephanie Brooks's avatar

To Watersnake: why should our collective broom of experience and wisdom need to be used? Problems may be swept away but the person/organization guilty of making those problems will not be. Their persistence will no doubt win eventually.

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Stephanie Brooks's avatar

To Julian Gillespie: To my mind the justice system has gone down the drain like so many other systems. Where and when will it all end because until trust in the judicial system, the government and so many other things, is restored Australians don't know where to turn.

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Jim's avatar

Head., meet brick wall.

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Greg_In_Oz's avatar

Anyone who has been awake for at least the past 5 years has probably expected this … nothing that took place during the “pandemic” was honest, appropriate or well intentioned, hence nothing can be allowed to emerge from the fog because we all know it was all a colossal scam. Bastards are in charge and have been for years, whistle blowers are prosecuted and sociopaths are rewarded … that’s what the blob uses for its survival. The only victory is not to take part in their game.

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Alison Bevege's avatar

yes we are getting another psychological snow-job on social media now the cartel is trying to make sure RFK doesn't take away their mRNA cash cow, they've only just set it up to milk for the next 20 years under patent. In the last week I've seen: lab leak (distraction from mRNA), lockdowns not based on science (distraction from mRNA), and China's population disappeared in covid (it hasn't) another distraction to pretend covid was super deadly (it wasn't) therefore the dangerous mRNA was justified (it wasn't)

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Benjamin Parry's avatar

Absolutely agree with your final remark, Greg, however in the comment I left further down here, I recommended a couple of alternatives people can take.

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Danielle's avatar

Public service needs to have time limits. 10 years, then go and get a real job. Every single one of these people that give evidence at these Senate hearings are openly derisive, absolutely condescending and always end up waffling inanities whilst avoiding answering the questions.

The Australian people deserve better.

They can’t even get senators’ names correct.

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Billy Field's avatar

They are there to ENSURE the products are safe... ie S-A-F-E....they are spouting chat about relying on foreign "views/policies"...this is malfeasance at very best...of course they cannot know or verify adverse events unless the look for them...& obviously have not!! ALL these people ought be prosecuted! The fact that Judge K...will not HEAR the evidence is outrageous & how they do these CRIMINAL tricks,,,,they refuse to look at the evidence! In my view as with Assange the judiciary is compromised! Sad!

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Danielle's avatar

Their favourite saying:

“There is no evidence……”

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Billy Field's avatar

....because we EMPHATICALLY refuse to look for it! Exactly! Cheers D!

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JC's avatar

Maybe they should get a real job FIRST, so that they know what working feels like.

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Danielle's avatar

Also a good point! 👍🏻

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Rebekah Barnett's avatar

“They refuse to accept the possibility that the evidence from the Yale study might be valid, because the study is a pre-print.”

Hypocritical because the Health Dept uses preprints to inform its Covid and vaccination health advice. A couple of years ago I asked for a list of studies informing its info/advice pages and at least several were preprints.

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Alison Bevege's avatar

yes and they simply ignore the studies that don't say what they want, peer-reviewed or not

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Danielle's avatar

Do as I say, not as I do

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damon mcclure's avatar

Nudge unit accounts helped to manipulate immensely.

- Lockdowns and the Five Eyes armies

The ‘ABCANZ’ armies in lockstep: “lessons learned” in early 2020

https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/lockdowns-and-the-five-eyes-armies?publication_id=2191545&post_id=154666192&isFreemail=false&r=x2a5a&triedRedirect=true

- Four of the largest Kiwi companies ran Pilot Projects in 2021 that gave the Government valuable insights into how to ramp up the Nudge Unit's strategies, coercing citizens to take the shots.

https://informedheart.substack.com/p/nz-corporate-giants-fonterra-mainfreight?triedRedirect=true

- this isn’t fiction—it's a chilling reality. This is the unsettling truth of “nudging,” a technique that has been meticulously refined and deployed by Behavioural Nudging Units. These units have quietly embedded themselves into the very fabric of governments across the world, including those in the UK and Australia, subtly influencing the behaviour of entire populations under the guise of public welfare.

https://oxgmcxo.substack.com/p/have-you-been-nudged-or-hacked?triedRedirect=true

-The Nudge Unit, also known as the Behavioural Insights Team, began in 2010 with the aim of shaping society’s behaviour through subtle “nudges.” However, recent statements by senior behavioural scientists connected to BIT raise concerns about their power and direction

https://expose-news.com/2024/03/26/nudge-unit-should-be-held-to-account/

https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/article/explainer/nudge-unit

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Alison Bevege's avatar

yes it was psychological warfare that kicked off the entire covid panic back in 2020 with all the social media videos of people falling over dead in Wuhan or fitting on guerneys. All fake or misattributed, all anonymous, all disappeared... all to run us into a panic. to make us think covid was more deadly than a rebranded cold.

Now it's happening again as the cartel moves to protect the mRNA cash cow (future 20 years' patent profits) - trying to deflect the angry mob with Maha, autism, lab leak, lockdowns not justified by science... throwing everything at us, even "half of china's population disappeared as covid so deadly"... all of it coming at us.

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damon mcclure's avatar

All true but this has to be more then about money Allison, it's too widespread, too coordinated and too harmful.

i.e.

Law- Julian Gillespie's loss to no standing and the subsequent complicity of the oversight judges clearly indicates the judiciary is compromised. The second case appears sabotaged from within.

Public Service - All areas appear complicit, from medical through the police. Any federal employee was exempt except if they worked on a mandated site (fed police at the airport). Even then it's not the jackboots they cared about just the systems those jackboots were keeping smoothly running. They needed to continue keeping the peasantry sedate(Centrelink).

All politicians- I need say no more, we all know they were constitutionally protected. Worse when Hunt told the world noone asked why being PROTECTED was NOT getting the poison.

Besides the original handful speaking truth how many have flipped. They ALL know.

We are in the middle of a world wide western coup. They changed the penalty for treason from hanging to a few years in jail for a reason.

Stockholder capitalism is communism rebranded and when they say "you'll own nothing and be happy" thats a threat and a promise.

Co-incidently the terrorist organisation WEF 2030 timeline seems to be alinged with the UN agendas.

Speaking of that why did Gigi Foster mention the potential importance of the UN sustainable development goals in her "freedom" speech at WA vs the premier?

Co-incidently she also has ties to this terrorist organisation.

How is it she didn't just keep her job at the himan rights abusing UNSW but she had to be acting as their representative to have used their brand on every slide.

Food for thought but personally I have zero faith and any name I trust myself absolutely and the other no names because we're the carbon they want to reduce.

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richard noakes's avatar

Perhaps the answer lies in this book apparently available from Amazon in which the authors for BionTech, who made and licensed the vaccines for Pfizer say that the vaccines should have been called Gene Therapy Injections, apparently and that their purpose was to target the Dentric Cells in the Lymph Nodes and not Covid Vaccines at all, because the blanket cover was for vaccines and not Gene Therapy Injections, presumably: The Vaccine Inside the Race to Conquer the COVID-19 Pandemic

by Joe Miller (Author), Özlem Türeci (Author), Ugur Sahin (Author)

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GeoffPainPhD's avatar

Yes Richard, BioNTech held a special industry briefing on their "BodyHack" - deliberate targets were Lymph Nodes, Spleen and Thymus

A memorable quote: "Indeed, Sahin and Türeci were so determined to get their mRNA into the Lymph Nodes that they had an earlier mRNA construct injected directly into the patient's Lymph Nodes in the groin".

https://geoffpain.substack.com/p/lymphadenopathy-danger-from-endotoxin

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Elizabeth Hart's avatar

Thanks for this article Alison, there is MUCH to consider here…

ATAGI for instance…

In this regard, please see my email sent to Anthony Albanese and others on 5 March 2025: ATAGI - Disclosures / Conflicts of Interest and historical information - this matter is STILL outstanding: https://vaccinationispolitical.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/atagi-disclosures-_-conflicts-of-interest-and-historical-information-this-matter-is-still-outstanding-1.pdf

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Annette O's avatar

Hi Alison, brilliant, real reporting once again. We agree 1000% and believe that the best way to help the few good people in Parliament is to add to their numbers hence this initiative - launching today - Australians for Australia are bringing together like-minded Minor Parties and Independents (real ones not Teals) across Australia who stand for common sense and a core set of values - sovereignty, democracy, the family and zero discrimination. There is a searchable list of candidates in both houses who stand for these values. They are being added to daily and we are also trying to educate voters on how the preferential system works as it is a mystery to most! Welcome all Aussies to join us. https://australiansforaustralia.net.au/

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Watersnake's avatar

Who do we contact to update the candidates list? AEC was foot dragging One Nation candidates who just got on the ballot last week. Looked at your website but didn’t see how to alert for missing candidates who fit the profile. Thanks!

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Annette O's avatar

Hi just email australiansforaustralia@protonmail.com Cheers!

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Diane's avatar

This was a great article, thank you Alison Bevege!

Thank you Phillip Altman for turning away from the corruption, unlike so many of your peers. People like you give the rest of us hope that there are moral people in these industries who can awake to this evil and help turn the tide.

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B Hodgen's avatar

How many of these unelected, unaccountable bozos, given exemptions from the jabs?

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Watersnake's avatar

Most of them.

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rrodynmac's avatar

All of them?

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KoalaPower's avatar

Keep a list of all those evil people, how can they sleep at night?

I am voting for one of the truly caring senators, make sure you put Labor, Greens, Libs and Teals last.

These are the freedom parties:

Libertarians, People First, One Nation, Trumpet of Patriots, United Australia Party, Family First, The Great Australian Party and Heart.

Check out their policies and find one that aligns with your views and put the rest of the freedom parties underneath.

We need change, a change to protect all Australians, especially in health.

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Barry Kissane's avatar

While I understand well the sentiment, the cold hard reality is that the Senate will always contain only a handful of the 'freedom parties' you mention, as the great majority of Australians will vote for the Uniparties. At present, there are only about 10 out of a total of 76 senators that are not Labor, Coalition(ish) or Greens. (I've not checked to see which Senators are retiring now - some are elected until 2028 - hence 'about'). The best case scenario for 'freedom' candidates - if every single voter realistically likely to not vote for the uni parties named actually does so carefully on polling day is that the total of 10 might creep up to as high as 17 [(too) generously adding one per state and 1 for a territory.] Just checking YouGov polls, for example, the non-Freedom parties are realistically predicted to have at least 85% of the vote. It's an inconvenient truth, I'm afraid - and please don't shoot the messenger. There is no realistic chance that the Senate will be controlled by 17 or so people if the uniparties choose to think alike. I'm not suggesting that people not try to do better than that - just making an informed guess at the likely outcome. [And, to repeat, I think 17 is an excessively optimistic guess. Happy to be proved wrong after the election is done and dusted.]

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Alison Bevege's avatar

it may take time but the change will be permanent. It's not instant. it takes years to build a political opposition. We must talk quietly and respectfully to everyone we can find, and slowly win people to put the majors last. Eventually they will lose and we will win

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KoalaPower's avatar

Yes, with MSM pushing the uniparties as though there are no other choices, but will wait and see what happens. Everyone should know about preference voting, look up Topher Fields videos on Youtube or Rumble that explains it and pass it on.

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Alison Bevege's avatar

yes i saw his marbles video pop up today i might watch and write one in

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Barry Kissane's avatar

Preferential voting is often misunderstood, surprisingly. For the record, I agree entirely with Topher Field that it is a very good system, ensuring that everybody's vote gets counted (once); I understand it well, and my comments were made from that perspective. I also agree that those who don't quite understand it look at one of Topher Field's videos, which are very good.

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Michael Ginsburg's avatar

We the people of Australia MUST understand that we CAN NOT vote, petition or sue our way out of our current predicament....E-V-E-R!!

E---V---E---R

This is without even getting into the specifics of what transpired during the 'Pandemic' (border closures, lockdowns, mandates etc) which most (if not all of it) was undertaken as a MILITARY OPERATION under EMERGENCY POWERS and where effectively ALL aspects of the Australian Constitution were SUSPENDED under extensive powers given to the federal health minister and the Commonwealth CMO in the Biosecurity act of 2015...which technically makes them ALL LAWFUL under civilian law.

Even if that wasn't the case, Operation COVID Assist (facilitating lockdowns, hotel quarantine & border closures ) and Operation COVID Shield (rollout of the 'vaccine') were MILITARY operations commanded by high ranking ADF Officers and thus outside the jurisdiction of any CIVILIAN court...only military & international war crimes tribunals (which is what Nuremberg was)!

We MUST understand that we are playing on the wrong field and trying to play basketball while our adversaries are playing chess (and winning easily every single time).

If we can't reframe our mindset into what is ACTUALLY taking place and how we ACTUALLY get out of this dire predicament, not only are we all dead but we won't even understand what has hit us!

The COMMONWEALTH of Australia CAN NOT be reformed...EVER!

It is not fit for purpose and NEVER was as the last few years have shown us.

Both its constitution and ALL other governance structures are fundamentally flawed!

You CANNOT put a square peg into a round hole....no matter how hard you try!

You must either change the peg or dig a new hole to fit it and the former is much easier to do than the latter.

LONG LIVE THE CCRA (Confederate Constitutional Republic of Australia). LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERACY!

https://actionabletruth.substack.com/p/confederate-constitutional-republic

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damon mcclure's avatar

I don't like to divert from the articles topic but the problem is that would be extremely dangerous at a time when it appears all areas of our public service are very badly compromised.

There is a word to describe the underlying problem, treason. While we appear to have all the senior roles from law through health into politics compromised tampering with the last shreds of our rights seems extremely reckless. Even look at this lawsuit, Julian has written from a good persons perspective but potential for this to be deliberately stuffed cannot be ignored.

Everything appears to be stalling, why needs to be addressed. (besides the obvious drainage of all energies).

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rrodynmac's avatar

Treason, yes-we need to replace the public service and set up a new system for ourselves. They’re not working for us, I think we know what needs to be done. They’re not following our constitution anyway.

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damon mcclure's avatar

For me the only avenue of success is to wake up the masses. Any other approach leads to failure because it's their compliance or non compliance that gives the power to the sociopaths.

Everything is built off that foundation and that's my approach to this entire debacle.

Without this we lose because the power is in the numbers or the ability to manipulate them.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Fair enough Damon, I just hope the masses do awaken! I’m not on any other social media except substack, so I can’t do much to awaken the sleepers.

Even my own sister I have given up on !

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damon mcclure's avatar

You're here mate and obviously interacting with people irl so thanks.

Movements have a habit of being subverted via the key names being followed. Personally I don't follow anyone/name I just walk my own path and it happens to be alongside them.

If they were placed or get turned at a critical moment it doesn't matter because I'm watching my own path and the vague goal in my mind. If they turn and I continue on in the direction I believe is best.

If you're a name or figurehead you have value to the scum class but as a faceless nobody we're just more carbon they want to reduce. Like all the nameless nobodies I have skin in the game and no avenue of retreat, a person like those I believe I can rely on.

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Alison Bevege's avatar

the products were indeed countermeasures controlled in the US by the DoD, with the health pattina just a farce. However the legal structure in Australia i don't think the military was in command, at least that's not the impression i get from the flow charts i've looked at in the covid inquiry report. The military helped with logistics only, as far as I know, and weren't needed for anything else (it was all sewn up anyway). If you have some clear evidence that the military was in control of it and that Operation Covid Shield wasn't just military help that was subservient to civilian command, then please do post the link.

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Michael Ginsburg's avatar

I am in the middle of a major investigation to somehow collate all the (HUGE) volume of information into one somewhat coherent (hopefully) article but in the meantime, here are a few pieces to get you started:

https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/the-great-preset-and-the-biodefense

https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/lockdowns-and-the-five-eyes-armies

https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/operation-covid-19-and-the-five-eyes

Generally speaking, I highly recommend that publication to every single Australian. I don't know who is behind it but the information they publish is truly mind blowing...and ALL of it checks out so far based on my own attempts at verification.

This was their very first post:

https://democracymanifest.substack.com/p/preview-coming-soon

Here is an initial mind dump on one aspect that I posted as a note:

https://substack.com/@michaelginsburg/note/c-107757013

Finally, I suggest you check out this video and pay very close attention in the closing titles to who WROTE THE SCRIPT. You will DEFINITELY recognise the name:

"This movie was created as a teaching material for a UNSW course, Bioterrorism and Health Intelligence, in 5 parts, each mapped to learning objectives in the 5 modules of the course. This full movie with the five parts merged into a continuous file."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cp6IwN04268

Ever heard of the "PLUS Alliance":

https://substack.com/@michaelginsburg/note/c-96795091

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Karen Sargeant's avatar

So you say a republic will save us? Did it save the USA?

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Michael Ginsburg's avatar

No, that is absolutely NOT what I am saying.

What I AM saying is that we need a:

1. Confederate

2. Constitutional

3. Republic

ALL THREE are non-negotiable requirements and each has very particular characteristics/specifications outlined in great detail in my article.

Please read it in full and happy to discuss further after you have done so. Please don't revert to 'sound bites'. I've put significant effort into putting forward my proposal in as much detail as possible/feasible exactly for the reason I want to move beyond surface-level conversations such as this.

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rrodynmac's avatar

You said it Michael ! Truth! Everyone please look at what Michael is offering here!

And notice Michael uses the word “dead”! Who’s dead?

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Karyne's avatar

Excellent article. Thank you. Should be shoved into every letterbox in sight.

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damon mcclure's avatar

Also the state controlld and funded propaganda.

- Relief for Australian media during COVID-19

https://archive.md/UGwQ5

Behind the media and government censorship -

403 access denied

Oops, it looks like you don't have permission to access this page.

https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/media-technology-communications/television/relief-australian-media-during-covid-19

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

Australians need guns for self-defense against their own government bureaucrats.

Once the population is well armed, it should be organized into militias which should invade all "public health" buildings and liberate Australia from murderous tyranny.

It will help to get the military and police on your side as much as possible first. You all know people in the military and police, however indirectly. Talk to them.

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Alison Bevege's avatar

no that is not what anybody is going to do, and no we don't need guns. We simply need to politically organise.

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aj hollis's avatar

If indeed we don't need guns then why was the Howard government, Federal Police, ASIO and even US government getting involved in hiring mercenaries to murder 35 people at Port Arthur in 1995. The evidence was always out there, even when the Weasel John Howard threatened people stating the absolute proof of the False Flag, with charges of Sedition, as he pushed to remove Australia's only reasonable chance of defence from enemies within or from the outside. (Such a small population needs to have an armed malitia of decent men and women much like that of Switzerland.)

The evidence was so blatant it was a false flag, that one might even suspect that like the Hilton Bombing, forces from within wanted the truth of it out for all to see, and turn, not just Australia but the world away from the path that has brought us to cusp of the fall of Western Democracy and what is clearly intended to be absolute Global Tyranny.

Only a population prepared to be militant was ever going to steer the Western World off the path that was reconfirmed with the creation of the UN, by Eugenicists such as the Rockefeller's and the International Bankers.

There really is no absolute knowing that such a tyranny is not the better of all man-made solutions of the 6000 year galactic cycle that is the real Great Reset.

My own feeling is that the apparent lack of concern for the well being of children, demonstrates humanity as a species, has a long way to go before ever truly being in the Grace of God.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Great comment aj ! I am with you on the 6000 year galactic cycle. (I think we’re talking about the same thing)

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

I think you misunderstand the situation. Without guns, they can just wipe you all out and there is nothing you can do about it.

Political organization is useless when Pfizer has paid off or blackmailed every official in your country. You'll just elect more Pfizer puppets.

It is suicidal to remain unarmed.

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aj hollis's avatar

Suicide is clearly the order of day. The guns are gone, the corrupted system is in place, so unless you have fairly sophisticated a workshop, you are back behind square one. The Covid19 Coup D'état has demonstrated the Western is slated for a stock reduction of proportions not recorded in our history, a history that clearly demonstrates patterns of bad to worse.

The expression "not in this day and age" has to be the biggest piss take in modern history. Statng it is either an admission you have your head where only a contortionist could get it, or your are practising the art of self effacing humour

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rrodynmac's avatar

aj, you speak of God in your comment a bit further up. I don’t think God approves of suicide.

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rrodynmac's avatar

They can wipe everyone out at any given time, whether or not we have firearms Patrick.

But definitely agree that people with firearms may be better off, depending on what’s coming at us.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

I don't think they can wipe out an armed populace determined to defend itself.

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rrodynmac's avatar

I really don’t know what to think anymore!

But we’ve still got more than half the population still asleep.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

That's why it's so important to keep talking, keep posting, write graffiti, etc.

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rrodynmac's avatar

Alison, you should know you can’t speak for others, or tell us what we need or don’t need.

Suggestion is better, or opinion.

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CurationCorner's avatar

AMEN, I have been saying this for the last three years since the Feral Labor party took office. As long as they are in power you will NOT get the Police (who are they and where are they) and the Military (What Military) onside.

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rrodynmac's avatar

I like what you say Patrick, but it’s not easy for us to acquire firearms.

Definitely agree we need to get police and defence on our side! Police have gone ballistic with power (and maybe with the help of drugs). They are our enemies right now!

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

You need a 2nd Amendment, and one even more clearly worded.

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rrodynmac's avatar

That will never happen, unless we get rid of gov’t in its present form.

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patrick.net/memes's avatar

If the people really want it, it will happen.

Vox populi, vox dei.

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rrodynmac's avatar

We both live optimistically and in hope! (And I had to look up Vox dei !)

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Bryan's avatar

Great article.

[The libertarians who want to defund government should consider that a regulatory agency funded by industry instead of taxpayers produces outcomes that kill people.]

I take your point, but a massive defunding of the bureaucracy would mean less of these near unaccountable bureaucrats making rules that the elected officials just wave through (i.e. jab mandates). Senate Estimates clearly show how little accountability these 'public servants' think they have.

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Danielle's avatar

Every time I watch one of these Senate Estimates hearings, I marvel at the restraint of the questioning Senator. I would have punched one of these arrogant a**holes in the face by now. 🙄 (And I NEVER condone violence)

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Alison Bevege's avatar

i understand the temptation to ax the bureaucracy, and support it when it comes to the climate lunacy eg. But when it comes to regulating drugs, you need to have an independent, funded regulator that isn't dependent on the corporations it polices.

It was the elected officials who decided the jab mandates - and the elected officials who failed to pass the legislation to amend the anti-discrimination act to include medical status (both one nation and gerard rennick tried to get this in from memory)

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